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Religion is Bullshit



"Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told. Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

But He loves you. He loves you, and He needs money!"

Trying to find a living comedian like this man. I can't find one.


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Surprised

I just got an email from my mother that, was, well, unexpected. We've been communicating through email since the horrible episode a month ago, despite a few attempts to get me on the phone. Well, after a recent exchange of emails, I noticed a real shift in tone. My mother actually admitted to the abuse. She even used the word "abuse" and apologized. She acknowledged my need for space, and told me about her new medication and treatment she was receiving.

I'm scared. I know I shouldn't be. I should be happy there seems to be an improvement with her. The thing is I've never done this before. So I don't know what the right thing to do is. I want to have that sliver of hope that we could have a normal relationship, but I'm am scared to do that because I don't want to hurt again. This is the first time I've essentially "cut her off." I've read that I need to treat codependents like addicts; tell them to get help or limit the relationship. I finally did that and she seems to kind of "get it." She has never "got it" before.

I was very frank and honest with her the past two days, which is unexpected of me because when I have been honest in the past, she hasn't taken it well or just picked pieces of what I said or wrote and argued with me. So I was so surprised, when I explained to her that I just can't blame myself that the only relationship I can have with my mother is through email. I can't blame myself for the fact that I don't trust her. I was very honest and I got a very tempered and close to rational response from her. Which is kind of a big deal.


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Facebook Religion Update and Those Scary Atheists

After some confusion, a funny email from my mother, and some introspective pondering after listening to Alan Watts lectures, I found myself changing my description of my religious leanings on facebook, yet again. Here it is:


Also, I know people don't like the term "atheist," but I find myself comfortable using it in the context of being asked "what is your religion?" If someone is asking me about "my religion," they are assuming a couple of things.

1. I believe in some sort of supernatural force, deity, etc.
2. I engage in rituals associated with these beliefs.

For one, I am not ashamed to answer I "disbelieve in deities" (i.e. atheist). While I also like the term "secular humanist," I don't like it to answer the religion question because I frankly DO NOT associate secular humanism with religion. I think in a general sense, it answers more philosophical and ethical questions rather than theistic ones. And while I know that atheism isn't a religion either, it addresses the assumptions I listed up above in what I find to be a more upfront manner. The reason I bring this up is because I recently read "An Accidental Atheist" on Leah's blog, and after reading the post as well as some of the comments, I started contemplating why people avoid the word even though they might be it. I avoided the word myself for a long time, and wrote a little about coming to terms with it here. Now I have to be fine with the fact that while I have become more comfortable with the term, there are some people who will never be comfortable with it.

And though I have used the term "pantheist" in the past, I started to realize that I had to start to making a clear distinction between dualistic pantheism and non dualistic pantheism. I don't think there is a separate "entity" or theos that gives life or a spirit to the universe, and so I really try to drive home the fact that when I relate to pantheism, it is only in a non dualist, scientific sense, which I think leads to more explaining, which sometimes I just don't feel like doing. To me, the universe is just the universe.

I have been having quite a few discussions with my husband about it. He won't call himself an atheist, but when we discuss nature, the cosmos, religion, spirituality, etc. we have essentially very similar if not the same view of religion and nature. And I have to admit, though I decided to use this word to identify what I think about religion, that doesn't mean that I don't also consider myself other things (see the description in the image of my facebook "Religious Views" above).

A perk about the word "atheist" is that it says to family that I am nowhere near Mormon or "religious" anymore (which is a good thing because I'm tired of them thinking that I just may become TBM again!). In fact, after recently updating the religion section in my facebook, I got a phone call from my mother in law. Apparently, my mother read my profile, and then proceeded to call my husband's mother to tell her that I said I was an "atheist."

Even though my mother in law knows that we don't believe in the church, she seemed very concerned about the prospect. The conversation ran a little like this:

"So, she was saying that you are.... an atheist. When I know you are trying with church."

"Well, yes I have gone to church a couple times recently... and frankly it irritated me..."

"Yes, I know, but she said you were an... atheist." (She seemed to not notice my use of the word "irritated")

"Well, I don't know how my disbelief should be an issue and why she would bring it up with you..."

"Oh."

MIL still didn't get it, because after I handed the phone to my husband, she brought up the claim that I was atheist to him. She told hubby that my mother claimed I was an atheist, but she "didn't get that from me." Finally my husband said, "So what if she is an atheist? That doesn't mean we should treat her any differently."

I don't know what I should have said. I mean, MIL didn't explicitly ask me, "Are you an atheist?" She just kept saying over and over how my mom said that I said I was an atheist. And the way MIL said it implied she thought it was an "awful" thing to say about me and that my mother was lying about it. So, I was treading carefully.

Anyways, it's awesome how my mom called his mom with the purpose of telling her that. Why on earth would there be any reason to do that if not to cause some emotional rift in between my MIL and myself? It is all so very odd...

Oh, and it was quite humorous to see how MIL would pause before she would say the word "atheist." This is probably what made me cautious in the way I responded to her on the phone. And even though I have physically placed my body in a church building on Sunday in the last few months, it is funny that she therefore assumes that automatically makes me a TBM trying to do the mental gymnastics again. I suppose it's that whole "Well if they are in church they must feel the spirit" attitude.

Anyways, this is going to be my new inspirational poster. I'll consult it every time someone gasps when the words "atheist" and "Hypatia" are brought up in the same sentence:

(Picture is from Accidentally Awesome)



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I did it. I'm a facebook atheist.

I've been going through a huge internal struggle with regards to Facebook. I've been strongly considering deleting my account, but I recently, well, made some friends on the social networking site. These friends "get me," so to speak. So, lately, it's been great.

They are really the main reason I haven't cut it off yet. However, recently, after much consideration and indigestion, I finally have done something I've been wanting to do for a long time. I updated my "Religious Views" to say "Atheist."

I hadn't done it until now because I've been scared of people "finding out" about my lack of faith. However, I've hit the point where I don't care if people know anymore. I tried putting this in my profile a few nights ago, but then chickened out and removed it. I did it again, and this time, it's staying there. I mean, it's not fair that everyone else gets to comfortably state their religious status, even though their said religion is ridiculous. I should get the same right to be frank about what I think of religion.

So here it is. I added a description to help clarify what I mean by "atheist."


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Spirituality

Spirituality is something that I feel I've been needing. I don't mean spiritual in the religious, "ghostly," sense, but I mean it in feeling that connectedness that gives me a real high to be alive. Is it possible to experience it via some sort of mythos personifying nature or reality as it is? Is it possible to listen to music or read literature inspired by mythology that personifies nature? Not to be taken literally but to use as a tool for spiritual experience?


Don't get me wrong, I get inspired by reading scientific literature, but I'm starting to feel like I need some poetry in my life. I'm reading "The Little Book of Atheist Spirituality" and while it is full of great quote fodder, it's given me a taste for more "spirituality" and I'm not quite sure where I should start looking. Maybe a research project compiling a list of "to reads" is in order...


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Drugs

I remember once, when I was 16 or so, my mother sat me down at the kitchen table. With a very serious expression on her face, she asked, "Hypatia, are you using drugs?"


I couldn't believe she was asking me this. Here I was, Laurel President, and very faithful church goer, and my mom was asking me if I was doing drugs. Point blank. All serious and shit.

I remember I just kind of sat there with a dumb ass look on my face. "Um... no." I said.

"Because just tell me if you are. I want to help you if you are. I can tell that something's changed about you."

"No. Mom, I'm not taking drugs."

"You just seem, well, to be overly excited recently."

"Overly excited?"

"Yes. Hyper."

I don't know why I thought of this. But yes. My mom sat me down and questioned me about me using drugs. Even though I had never, ever touched any kind of drug. I sniffed whiteout when I was in the fifth grade once or twice. But DRUGS? Never.

Maybe I thought of this because I recently bought a coffee machine, and the fact that I am enjoying the wonderful libation of coke and rum. So yeah.

Oh and if I could get my hands on some, I probably would smoke a joint if given the opportunity.

Suck it Word of Wisdom.


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Revisiting the Context of Plato's Cave and Mormonism

I thought I'd share something I was pondering recently regarding Plato's Cave and Mormonism. Sure, Plato's parable has been used to depict someone leaving the Mormon Church (with the guy leaving the cave as representing the ex-mormon), but I think I had an epiphany the other day regarding this very popular allegory.

I was talking to my husband's mom the other day, while she was watching some guy, named "Jimmer,*" throw a ball around. Apparently, I "needed to be watching" that game, or so I was told. (I really wasn't interested.) She kept going on and on about him, and how he was a nice guy, how he was on all these tv shows, how he's not the crap player who was having consensual sex with his girlfriend, and so on.

Later, as I related the story of mind numbing-not-caringness to my husband, I had this idea: Mormonism and The World are in Plato's cave. I mean, really, most of the world is in the cave. How could it not be? If Huxley were alive today when he wrote his book, Brave New World would be filed under "Social Commentary" not science fiction.

So this is how it works: Mormons are in the cave. The World is in the cave. And everyone is just kind of chained up in there together like a bunch of unenlightened dumbasses. So what is the difference between Mormons and The World? I will tell you.

Mormons refuse to entertain themselves with the shadows that The World likes. Mormons award their own prizes and honors to each other for shadows, of which the Mormon leader in the cave approves. In a sense, Mormons are EVEN more ridiculous because they somehow think their shadows and honors are better then the poor schmuck chained to the wall next to them. Similar things can be said of other people-made organizations, though some, like the Church, take it to a rather fucking-insane level by attaching "salvation" to their shadows and honors.

Also, by putting The World in the Cave, I'm not saying The World is evil, but that doesn't mean it's enlightened either.

PS - I wrote "World" so many times, now it doesn't look like a word.

*WHAT KIND OF A NAME IS "JIMMER"? SERIOUSLY, IS THIS A PERSON OR SOME KIND OF FISH-BAIT?!


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Validating My Mormon Background

To any who may think, "oh Hypatia just wasn't faithful enough" or that "Hypatia just didn't surround herself with enough church things" I just want to say that you are an asshole who has no idea what you are talking about. It was my full immersion (wink wink) in mormony things that helped me to see it was not for me in the long run. Here are some of my mormon credentials (starting from when I was young):


1. Beehive President
2. Miamaid President
3. Laurel President
4. Youth Camp Leader (3 years)
5. Seminary Graduate (Seminary overlapped with college because I started going to college at 17)
6. Primary Teacher (Before I transferred to the Y)
7. Institute Attendee (for one year)
8. BYU Graduate
9. Married in the Temple to an RM
10. Primary Teacher with my Husband

Sure, I was never Relief Society President or anything, BUT considering I stopped believing in my early 20s, I would have to say that I had quite a few credentials under my belt!


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Mother Dearest is Out

I'm planning on posting a few things in the coming week. Recently, there have been a lot of changes in my life. I've decided to put a buffer on my toxic mother, and have had to stand up for that boundary on more than one occasion. My father, who has normalized the abuse, doesn't understand why I won't talk to my mother at all and yesterday asked, "So, what? You're just never going to talk to your mom again?" He tries to tell me how much she's improved, that the combination of psychiatrist, therapist, and new drugs that she's doing a lot better. Unlike her, I haven't had that luxury of getting the mental treatment I need. I'm currently waiting for insurance cards so I can see a goddamn therapist myself.


I didn't commit to calling her, even though my dad tried to say, "Just call, say hi and give the phone to her granddaughter." I said I couldn't commit to that. He finally suggested that Marcus call and do that, since I mentioned I was considering it on my mother's birthday, "even though it might make her sad" that I wasn't the one who called. He called because of a brief fallout that happened when she used my dad's cell phone to call me, knowing I would not pick up calls from her cell, or from the house phone because I know it's her. I told her in family therapy, and multiple times that I'm comfortable only with emails right now, but yesterday she called, from my dad's phone. I answered and said "hello," when I heard her say my name in that irritated voice of hers. Then, a "miracle" happened and the call dropped! I don't think I would have had the courage to hang up on her myself, but the universe worked in my favor yesterday and it looked like I just hung up on her. I let them assume that's what happened. It was so sneaky of her to do that and my dad told me that she realized that it wasn't a good way to try to communicate with me and that it did look sneaky. He said she realized that and was sorry she did that. Except she tells him that and never bothers to write me an email explaining that. She tells everyone around her how sorry she is, but never writes me a genuine letter of apology.

I never had the choice of having a normal mother. I never had the choice to not get the constant verbal and emotional abuse. I never had the choice to not suffer in that house growing up with the constant fights, manipulation, and threats of divorce. Now she doesn't have the choice to just treat me as she pleases. Communicate the way SHE wants to anymore. She is merely meeting the consequences of her actions. She has made this bed.

The good thing in all of this is that now she knows she can't operate in secret. I have no problem telling anyone and everyone how she is abusive, toxic, unstable and how she has refused to get herself the right treatment for so long. It has been about a week and a half since I've received a text from her, and it is like a major burden in my life has been lifted. The last text I received from her was some sorry attempt at a complement. Like she was trying to find something nice enough to say to me so I would reply via text. But I saw right through that. She was told that text and phone was off limits, and instead of sending me an email, she sends me a text because she KNOWS that I have said, over and over, that she is not to text or call me. Even by sending something sugary sweet in a text, it is obvious that she is trying to pull me in again. To get me to text back and break my boundaries. I won't do it.


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Not Really Coming Out

I am not coming out fully... yet. But I am slowly testing the waters with family. I'm going to be posting more on my personal blog (which I talk more about the current adventure my family is on, parenting, reading, writing, etc.) . If you would like to follow me there, contact me using the contact form on the contact page of this blog with your name, email, and I will get back to you with my other blog's information. I will give you the blog address to follow, but I will ask that you do not associate this blog, with the one associated with my real name at all. This is very important. Thanks...


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